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Post by postal on Dec 26, 2012 7:44:33 GMT -5
this whole new push the gun control poeple are doing is off the backs of dead kids and by making it harder to own one and more regulations they think it well make are kids safer but that the olny sloution the have and refuse to listen o the nra whinch they are going to fund.well a guy in ny state killed 2 firemen with a gun after doing 17 years for killing his granma with a hammer.did he buy the gun leagly?proubly not had a bushmaster too.
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Post by LT on Dec 26, 2012 11:10:49 GMT -5
here's a thought to really stir the pot: why was an ex-con, who killed his own grandmother in premeditated cold blood...with a hammer...and showed intentions of doing it again after serving time...NOT sentenced to life or the electric chair?
with that in mind, who murdered those firemen? a bushmaster ar15...or the low-life SOB who pulled the trigger? what's it matter what weapon he used?...he found a way despite alllll the governments grips on gun control.
Gun control doesn't stop the bad guys from obtaining weapons. Never has, never will.
Final food for thought: think a ban on semi-auto rifles and handguns will solve the problem? Nearly every recorded assassination attempt on a U.S. president or president elect, from the 1950s to the present, involved a bolt-action, a revolver, explosives, or vehicle as a battering ram. After JFK, half the assassins or would-be's are given the excuse of mental instability, temporarily sentenced to mental institutions, then LET GO BACK INTO THE PUBLIC.
Anyone else see the real problem here??
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Post by dave OC-6 on Dec 26, 2012 11:48:05 GMT -5
im no following you?
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Post by dave OC-6 on Dec 26, 2012 11:56:22 GMT -5
a question should be what happenes if they ban the "ASSLT rifles" and the crime rate goes up, and there is another mass shooting, what then? ban hand guns ban revolvers (reagen / the start of WWI) ban bolt rifles (JFK) ban shot guns (arora cinema) ban bombs (hitler, muhara fed building) ban knives (most mas murders) ban rental vans (world trade towers first attack) ban aircraft (9-11) ban muslems ban Mexicans (Mexican drug war) when we ban everything that kills people, what will we have left?
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Post by caliban on Dec 27, 2012 20:10:11 GMT -5
a question should be what happenes if they ban the "ASSLT rifles" and the crime rate goes up, and there is another mass shooting, what then? ban hand guns ban revolvers (reagen / the start of WWI) ban bolt rifles (JFK) ban shot guns (arora cinema) ban bombs (hitler, muhara fed building) ban knives (most mas murders) ban rental vans (world trade towers first attack) ban aircraft (9-11) ban muslems ban Mexicans (Mexican drug war) when we ban everything that kills people, what will we have left? We'll still have sticks and stones, will they ban those from us too? "I'm sorry Mr. knox, your application for government sticks has been denied." "But, Mr. Gov clerk, I need those sticks to start a campfire to keep my family warm for winter." "A campfire?! I don't have your request for that on file! SECURITY!!"
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Post by postal on Dec 28, 2012 6:52:49 GMT -5
Reagan did it right in 86 then a couple of Idiot tired to fixed it by making it worst by saying were doing it to stop crime but it failed If it anit broke dont fix it.Well the lastest are fine President has put the Idiots back to work Binden is now leading the task force on gun violence and heard finestien speak last nigt she refuses to go with the NRA solution to stop school shootings by saying their just using it as a distraction.And what is she doing?besides setting the stage for something really bad.
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Post by shadowhawk on Jan 3, 2013 20:47:32 GMT -5
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Post by shadowhawk on Jan 3, 2013 21:36:45 GMT -5
Found this interesting because it's dead accurate. She was elected to serve he American people, not rule them. Part of her oath was to protect the constitution, and she is not. According to the constitution itself, this is treason, which is punishable by impeachment, fines, jail time, or death. That is from the governments website. Also, obama took an oath to preserve the constitution. The constitution clearly states that it is treason to provide aid to the countries enemies, and yet he approved giving f16 to egypt, which is controlled by the Muslim brother hood, our enemies. This is one of the highest forms of treason, and is punishable by death, although not required to be that severe. The point is, both of these people have committed treason which could technically be punished by death, and yet nobody does anything. The stupidity of the majority of Americans amazes me. I would think that people that stupid wouldn't have enough brain power to run tee basic bodily functions to keep themselves alive.
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Post by postal on Jan 3, 2013 22:03:04 GMT -5
yes shadowhawk theres alot of slow witted poeple out there that are groom by the media that protray gun owners as a bunch of wackos plotting to run around and shoot poeple.example the the paper that posted the information about the gunowners then get complaits of cocern so they get scared and hire armed securty armed the deadly ar-15s.In truth gunowers obey the law so we can stay gun owners the good guys and not become the bad guys.
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Post by shadowhawk on Jan 3, 2013 22:18:52 GMT -5
Technically speaking, the people of the united states don't have to do anything the government tells ten to if they don't want to because the government is elected and funded by the people. For example, if even say just 25% of people refused to pay their taxes, the government wouldn't have enough power to do anything about it, because there are so many people. Unfortunately, people are to scared by the big bad government to stand up for their rights. The government does not have a single right that cannot be taken away by the people.Instead of the government telling the people what to do, it needs to be the people telling the gov. what to do. And the military shouldn't be a large deterrent because many of them would fight for the people rather than against them. Also, people have acces to every weapon imaginable. In L.A., the police did a gun buyback, and someone turned in 2 RPGs. Thus proving the point that if the military has it, chances are some citizen somewhere has acces to it. People need to stand up and take charge of the gov. and stop being blindly led. This has become just pathetic. These freaks are ruining life for the rest of us and it cannot continue. I will bet anyone $100 that if uns are banned, there will be an uprising, possibly even a civil war. This must stop now.
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Post by dave OC-6 on Jan 3, 2013 22:59:18 GMT -5
the 2 RPGs in Hollywood were movie props / expended launch tubes....
you used to be able to get them at any surplus store for 50-60.00 ea, then turn them in to the buyback program for 100-500 ea...
just like NRA guys turn in old broken guns for 100-500 ea then turn around and use the money to buy shiney new guns...
in Chicago they were buying guns and people were going to wall mart and get airsoft guns and starter guns and turn them in for BIG bucks then turn around and use the money to get drugs.
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Post by dave OC-6 on Jan 3, 2013 23:06:39 GMT -5
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Post by shadowhawk on Jan 3, 2013 23:29:03 GMT -5
I still think that people have access Anything the military has access to. And that there is no governmental power that cannot be removed by the people. And the wellfare system is crap. The ONLY people that should receive welfare are the disabled, and veterans. Anybody else can get off their fat lazy butts and get a job and stop mooching off the rest of us that actually work for a living. I don't mind the disabled getting help. They legitimately need it. I don't mind veterans getting help. Theyve more than earned it. I do have a problem w/ the rest of these jack- sucking up funds. And you should get to vote as soon as you start paying taxes. And you shouldn't get to vote UNLESS you pay taxes, served in the military, or have a disability that keeps you from working.
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Post by postal on Jan 4, 2013 7:41:06 GMT -5
Are you talking about the lastest buy back on the news shadowhawk?And that one was in oakland and was sponser by the medical marajuana growers of america and it was days of paperwork 40% of the guys were full auto and 90% were stolen.Just show you how well bans work!
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Post by shadowhawk on Jan 4, 2013 7:48:40 GMT -5
Bans don't work because if a person wants to kill they will find a way.
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Post by shadowhawk on Jan 4, 2013 7:50:26 GMT -5
Inengland they banned guns and now their banning kitchen knives. That is what will happen here if we continue on our current course. Again, Feinstein serves us, not Ike's is. He ha to do what we say, not what she wants.
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Post by dave OC-6 on Jan 4, 2013 8:29:29 GMT -5
Are you talking about the lastest buy back on the news shadowhawk?And that one was in oakland and was sponser by the medical marajuana growers of america and it was days of paperwork 40% of the guys were full auto and 90% were stolen.Just show you how well bans work!
the buyback program lists all semi auto guns as {automatic) then the news picks it up and is translated into automatic machine gun...... just another way to make up fear.
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Post by shadowhawk on Jan 4, 2013 10:15:39 GMT -5
It is impossible to stop people from killing. World peace will never be achieved
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Post by postal on Jan 5, 2013 5:13:15 GMT -5
Dave I got my info from a person that had to do some of the pw and there were alot of aks47s rpks and smg in all forms
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Post by spacemarine658 on Jul 26, 2013 23:09:20 GMT -5
I'd like to point out not all of us "lefties" think that way I support the military (future special forces here) gun rights, and the such but I also support the legalization of gay marriage and pro-choice plus I believe that guns don't kill people , people kill people with any manner of things so don't assume all liberals hate guns many of us are gun rights activists even those in congress so don't class us all together btw I believe the second amendment about the milita was intended not as a guard but as a defense force against a possible dictatorship in America
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