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Post by nbustarhymes on Sept 7, 2012 9:47:40 GMT -5
So here is my question...
I'm lookin' for a decently priced airsoft replica, M4 with rail system, that I will upgrade and modify to create a Tribute for a friend of mine that passed away 3 months ago.
I was just gonna go and get another KWA like the one I run and go from there.
But I wanted to see if there were any other sturdy makers that ya'll could suggest. I hear G&G is really good, but I would like to hear from you guys before I jump into it.
Thanks a bunch.
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Post by MotorMouth93 on Sept 7, 2012 10:00:45 GMT -5
G&P
I am a KWA AEG hater so I'll try not to get into that.
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Post by Foggy (CR4) on Sept 7, 2012 10:42:22 GMT -5
Tribute gun... as in this will sit on the wall or in a glass case? Or is this something you plan to skirmish and play with in your friends honor.
Did your friend play? If so what did he use, go with that and build it as he would have wanted.
VFC Perhaps? ...I hear good things about them.
I am personally a KWA fan so if all else fails go with what you know.
... btw Neo... Sorry to hear about the passing of your friend.
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Post by nbustarhymes on Sept 9, 2012 12:08:11 GMT -5
@motor: aww not a fan of kwa? I gotta ask why. Why do you suggest g&p?
@foggy: It will most likely start off as skirmishable replica. But I will probably want to put it up on the wall once it gets done. So a little of both. She didn't play Airsoft, I just want to do something in memory of her, by combining something I enjoy and someone who I care about. Why do you suggest VFC?
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Post by mugensamurai on Sept 9, 2012 14:57:06 GMT -5
I have owned and/or worked on g&g, G&p, vfc, and kwa. In my opinion, the vfc is best. Its built the best for a stock weapon system, but also has a better potential to be upgraded. The wiring, self shimming stock gears, piston/cylinder assembly, and Awesome bushings really separate it from all other brands. The receiver of the vfc is also of great quality.
G&p is also a good choice. Internally it is sound, however due to the rear of the gearbox being "reinforced" I did have to shave some metal to install a 13:1 gear set. Piston already came short stoked 2 teeth off of the release side. The air nozzle also was metal and had an oring. It has a nice metal Hopup too. The receiver of the gun however, was a lighter metal that really showed signs of wear quickly.
G&g and kwa I really don't like. There are ALOT of reasons for both brands.
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Post by MotorMouth93 on Sept 9, 2012 14:58:59 GMT -5
G&P guns have great externals (most people will say that G&P externals are far superior to KWA), good internals, are reasonably priced, and completely TM compatible.
The biggest issue I have with KWA is non standard parts, this makes them not suited well for builds. They have also convinced themselves that their gearboxes are made with enough precision to not need shims, which is not true. If one of the proprietary parts breaks the only option is to either try to mod another part to fit or buy KWA's ridiculously overpriced replacement.
That said, a stock KWA will outperform a stock G&P, but the G&P is far better externally and can be made better internally. With the KWA your pretty much stuck in stock form.
Edit: VFC is great too, but the self shimming gears are not. A $10 set of JG gears would be an upgrade for a VFC.
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Post by wraven on Sept 9, 2012 18:55:14 GMT -5
Real sword makes a fantastic product, if it's destination is the wall or the field. It's good to go.
Condolence for the loss of a friend.
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Post by Foggy (CR4) on Sept 9, 2012 20:47:24 GMT -5
It really depends on your wants when you come down to it Neo... I suggested VFC because all the ones i've held were all solid. I was thinking you'd be showcasing this replica wasn't sure how much mod work you'd be doing to the internals.
From what i've seen via Online & Local Shops... internals are easy to get ... gears, wires, pistons, springs etc. As long as you have a standard platform. Get the replica with the externals you are happy with, you can gut and replace anything on the inside later. Just my .02
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Post by dave OC-6 on Sept 9, 2012 21:16:17 GMT -5
get with me and i can show the best guns that i can get and if you like one i can give it to you at the MAP.
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Post by nbustarhymes on Sept 9, 2012 21:38:09 GMT -5
Alright so I hear alot of G&P and VFC...and one Real Sword.
As far as internals goes...yes I want to turn it into an evenly balanced speed and range replica. In other words i want to make it a worthy skirmishable replica.
MAP? What's that dave? Ill get with you as soon as i can make it down there again.
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Post by wraven on Sept 9, 2012 23:22:33 GMT -5
Minimum advertised price (MAP) - It's the lowest a retailer can sell a MAP protected item, helps regulate the authorized dealers.
I own G&P's, VFC's and Real Sword AEG's - honestly you can't go wrong with anyone selection out of that line up. You might find yourself not wanting to hang it up on the wall. -winks-
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Post by nbustarhymes on Sept 10, 2012 11:45:30 GMT -5
Alright so I'll look into those three then.
Thanks for the info everyone.
But here is another question for all you upgraders.
What would be your go-too upgrade part manufacturer?
Systema, madbul, etc.
Price is not a factor here...just gimme what you know works for you and your build/s. |
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Post by dave OC-6 on Sept 10, 2012 12:38:50 GMT -5
if you spend the money then you dont need to upgrade. i can get VFCs and other high end guns (just dont stock them) that come with everything and you have little or no reason to upgrade the inturnals.
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Post by MotorMouth93 on Sept 10, 2012 13:50:22 GMT -5
Alright so I'll look into those three then.
Thanks for the info everyone.
But here is another question for all you upgraders.
What would be your go-too upgrade part manufacturer?
Systema, madbul, etc.
Price is not a factor here...just gimme what you know works for you and your build/s. SHS all the way, their parts are on par with Systema but they cost MUCH less. However if you get an SHS gearset make sure it has the first gen. bevel gear (ones on clandestineairsoft.com do). The current gen bevel's are plagued with problems. Clandestineairsoft.com sells their parts at a great price. |
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Post by nbustarhymes on Sept 12, 2012 8:58:14 GMT -5
I gotcha Dave, just covering my bases. Just in case.
SHS, I haven't heard about them before. But I assume you've had good outcomes using their products? |
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Post by SnakeAssault on Sept 12, 2012 12:22:33 GMT -5
My G36 hop up works great if nothing else.
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Post by MotorMouth93 on Sept 12, 2012 13:15:19 GMT -5
SHS, I haven't heard about them before. But I assume you've had good outcomes using their products? They are relatively new as far as AEG parts manufacturers go. They are very strong, but due to the low cost their tolerances aren't as tight as Systema/Guarder/Prometheus etc. Worst case scenario is that you'll have to spend a few minutes with the file. (I got a cylinder that was a fraction of a mm too long) Regardless, SHS seems to be the go-to part in most cases on the larger forums. |
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Post by nbustarhymes on Sept 12, 2012 16:19:23 GMT -5
Oh okay thanks for the info. Gotcha, besides them anyone else have a go-to brand? |
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Post by mugensamurai on Sept 13, 2012 20:07:36 GMT -5
They are no doubt the go to parts. I've run 370 Fps @ 40rps all the way up to 475 Fps @ 27rps guns with mostly only shs parts. Motors get hotter than most though.
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Post by nbustarhymes on Sept 13, 2012 20:50:49 GMT -5
Oh okay. You mean their motors with the neo magnets? |
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